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Brian McLaren: Let’s Talk About Sex
Published April 9, 2010 Emergent , Scripture , Theology Leave a CommentTags: A New Kind of Christianity, bible, Brian McLaren, Christ, Church, controversy, ecclesiology, Emergent, Emerging, emerging church, Ethopian Eunuch, God, good news, homosexuality, Jesus, Jesus Christ, Missional, organic church, Philip, Scripture, sex, sexuality
Guzzling Some Godka – Altered States & Permanent Traits of Spiritual Consciousness
Published October 19, 2009 Absurdity , Christian Mysticism , Emergent , Faith , God 7 CommentsTags: alternative worship, archonology, baby Jesus, Ben Dunn, big tent revival, bizarre prophets, Brownsville Revival, charismatic, Cheech and Chong, contemplatives, creative miracles, Cynthia Bourgeault, deconstruction, drunk in the Spirit, Emergent, emergent church, Emerging, emerging church, glory dust, glory realm, glossolalia, God, Godka, gold dust, Holy Spirit, Ian Mosby, Ikon, integral, Jesus, John Crowder, Lakeland outpouring, Lakeland revival, manifestation, mystics, Nine O' Clock Service, open heaven, Pentecostal, Pentecostalism, Pete Rollins, Peter Rollins, prophetic, prophetic satire, Radical Grace, religious spirit, renewal, revival, revivalists, Richard Rohr, Rock & Roll, sex, sloshed in the Spirit, Sons of Thunder, speaking in tongues, Spirit-filled, spiritual gifts, stage, state, Stuart Davis, Tallagega Nights, The New Mystics, third wave, Thomas Keating, tokin' the ghost, Toronto Blessing, Vaudeville, Vaux, Vineyard, Voice of Healing Revival, Worship, worship music
Integral musician, actor and all-around hilarious guy Stuart Davis has just filmed a short commercial hawking the latest in potable ancient-future altered states of (higher) consciousness – Godka, or psilocybin-infused vodka.
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Absinthe what?
I wonder if he’s met our pals John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn – or John Scotland and Emerge Wales and Red Letters crew, for that matter?
Have you missed John since my interview with him last year? He’s YouTubing up a storm…here’s one of the latest, on ‘spiritual exercises’…
In a perfect world, John Crowder and Stuart Davis would get along like gangbusters. Stuart does for sex – on his bleeding-edge Sex, God, and Rock & Roll – what John does for drug culture.
If you missed it last year, here’s my six-parter looking at the Pentecostal/charismatic avant-garde, kicking off with Charismatic Chaos or (Holy) Spirited Deconstruction?
…and leading into a five-parter dialogue with Mr. John Crowder himself:
Good times.
What do you think of spirituality and altered states of consciousness? What I’m thinking these days is inspired by and summed up nicely in a piece entitled Mystical Experience or Unitive Seeing? by integral Christian contemplative Cynthia Bourgeault, in Richard Rohr‘s Radical Grace magazine. Money quote (though I could easily take the highlighter of my life and highest aspirations to the entire article):
The word “mystical” is almost always immediately coupled with the word “experience,” and a mystical experience becomes something that you have—or want to have, anyway. It becomes a sign of God’s special favor—a kind of spiritual “peak experience”—and circumstances promising to deliver that experience are eagerly sought after: from sacred chanting and Eucharistic devotion to Sufi whirling, solitude in the desert, or peyote. In the usual way of looking at things, it is an altered state of consciousness, ecstatic, something that takes you far beyond your usual self, a straight shot into divine consciousness.
What’s so bad about that?
Well, nothing, really. [Mike’s note: And I’d want to emphasize that I agree 100% – there’s nothing wrong with ecstasy and spiritual peak experiences! In fact, I could really use one right now…John, if you’re reading this, could you email me a toke of the Holy Ghost? I’d like Jesus on the mainline, please!] But from the point of view of real spiritual growth, it’s an immature state— a “state” rather than a “stage,” in the helpful language of Ken Wilber. A state is a place you go to; a stage is a place you come from: integrated and mature spiritual experience. It’s true that a mystical experience can indeed be a sneak preview of how the universe looks from the point of view of non-dual consciousness. And it’s true that this consciousness does indeed operate at a higher level of vibrational intensity, which at first can overwhelm our normal cognitve systems. But the point is not to squander this infusion of energy on bliss trips, but to learn to contain it within a quiet and spacious consciousness and allow it to permanently bring about a shift in our operating system, so that unitive (or non-dual) perception becomes our ordinary, and completely normal mode of perception.
Amen and amen. I’ll drink to that.
Selah.
Published June 1, 2008 Uncategorized 6 CommentsTags: Agents of Future, alternative worship, archonology, baby Jesus, Ben Dunn, big tent revival, bizarre prophets, Brownsville Revival, charismataic playboys, charismatic, Church Basement Road Show, church scandal, church unity, contemplatives, creative miracles, deconstruction, Destiny Image, dialogue, drunk in the Spirit, Emergent, emergent church, Emerging, emerging church, eschatology, family, focus on the family, glory dust, glory realm, glossolalia, God, Godka, gold dust, Holy Spirit, integration, integrity, interviews, itinerant ministry, Jesus, John Crowder, Lakeland outpouring, Lakeland revival, Lord's Day, love, manifestation, ministry, Morningstar, Morningstar Ministries, mutual respect, mystics, namaste, New Covenant, open heaven, Pentecostal, Pentecostal playboys, Pentecostalism, pneumatology, Portland, prophetic, prophetic satire, religious spirit, renewal, rethinking worship, revival, revivalists, selah, sex, sexual integrity, shalom, sloshed in the Spirit, Sons of Thunder, speaking in tongues, Spirit-filled, spiritual gifts, Tallagega Nights, The Bridge, The New Mystics, third wave, Todd Bentley, tokin' the ghost, Toronto Blessing, Vaudeville, Vineyard, Voice of Healing Revival, wives, Worship, worship music
No new Crowder-Morrell post today – enjoy the Lord’s Day. If you must read my blog (God bless you!), let’s catch you up on the nu-pneumatic/emerging church dialogue we’ve been having this week, as well as some classic posts from the ‘ol archives that you might not be aware of.
First off for our new readers, some tie-ins I did last year looking at this whole phenomenon we describe as worship:
‘Atheist’ Worship
Restoring Worship: An Example
New Worship for a New Covenant
All this discussion about letting go and letting God be God in the more visceral, intuitive, and gut-levels of our beings elicited a phone-in comment from a friend at The Bridge in Portland. I don’t want to steal his thunder should he decide to comment, but in essence he’s been really, really into my initial post on Spirit-led deconstruction and John Crowder’s subsequent responses. To paraphrase, he said “What if the emergent movement could be known not just for our deep, insightful rethinking of theology and praxis; what if we could have fun, get silly, and let go in a way that modernity couldn’t? What if we’re missing out on some of God’s own re-thinking of our lives and agendas?”
This was funny to me, coming from a guy in The Bridge PDX, which is one of the most emotionally healthy and expressive emerging churches I’m aware of. Maybe the Sons of Thunder could thunder under The Bridge, bringing their heavy drunken glory to Brewtopia? I might fly out for that!
I haven’t danced in the aisles at worship in years and years, but I totally could – head and heart in rhythm – treated to a spirit and vibrancy and heartfelt integrity like this:
Their roving freeform worship band is Agents of Future. Their YouTube playlist can be found here; even better sound-quality songs can be found on their Myspace page – I particularly recommend “Nothing in the Way” and “I’ve Tasted You.”
Crowder & Morrell Dialogue: What About the Fam? (Or, ‘Sex-Crazed Charismatics?’)
Published May 31, 2008 Church , Faith , Friendship , God , Humor , Leadership , Uncategorized , Vocation , Worship 11 CommentsTags: alternative worship, archonology, baby Jesus, Ben Dunn, big tent revival, bizarre prophets, Brownsville Revival, charismataic playboys, charismatic, Cheech and Chong, Church Basement Road Show, church scandal, church unity, contemplatives, creative miracles, deconstruction, Destiny Image, dialogue, drunk in the Spirit, Emergent, emergent church, Emerging, emerging church, eschatology, family, focus on the family, glory dust, glory realm, glossolalia, God, Godka, gold dust, Holy Spirit, integrity, interviews, itinerant ministry, Jesus, John Crowder, Lakeland outpouring, Lakeland revival, manifestation, ministry, Morningstar, Morningstar Ministries, mutual respect, mystics, open heaven, Pentecostal, Pentecostal playboys, Pentecostalism, Peter Rollins, prophetic, prophetic satire, religious spirit, renewal, revival, revivalists, Rick Joyner, Rob McAlpine, Robby Mac, sex, sexual integrity, sloshed in the Spirit, Sons of Thunder, speaking in tongues, Spirit-filled, spiritual gifts, Steve Knight, Tallagega Nights, The New Mystics, third wave, Todd Bentley, tokin' the ghost, Toronto Blessing, Vaudeville, Vineyard, Voice of Healing Revival, wives, Worship, worship music
Controversial Spirit-filled minister John Crowder speaks for himself in this followup to my Charismatic Chaos or (Holy) Spirited Deconstruction? post. Want to read it? Then go here to my new blog home at MikeMorrell.org! Here you’ll be able to keep up with the latest. Please update your bookmarks & RSS feeds accordingly. Thank you!
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