Brian McLaren, Tim King – End-Times & New Beginnings

Spencer Burke and Brian McLaren continue their discussion on A New Kind of Christianity – is eschatology catastrophic and in the future? Or might it be fulfilled in an important sense, open-ended for divine-human empowerment? You can see the show notes for this segment and the entire interview here. You can download Brian’s fascinating free bonus chapter on eschatology – dealing with ‘personal eschatology’ and the afterlife – here.

This is a great time to mention an exciting new transition in the life of the Morrell family. I write this perched in the beautiful Black Forest of Colorado Springs, Colorado, where Jasmin, Jubilee and I will be moving soon! (To the Springs, not the Black Forest…I wouldn’t be able to breathe up there!) I’m here with Tim King (whom Spencer also interviewed recently), Doug King, Kevin Beck and families – three-fourths of the all-new Presence team, of which I’ll soon be a full-time member.

I’ve been working with Presence as a consultant since 2006, and beginning this Spring I’ll be with them in a full-time capacity. Presence – along with The David Group and a soon-to-be-announced third counterpart – does amazing work in (what Brian calls) participatory eschatology, personal and communal empowerment, and peace-building work worldwide. I’ll be coming on as a communications jack-of-all trades, assisting in making our social media interaction top-notch as we catalyze further opportunities for collaboration with all people, across class and party lines. Stay tuned!

And…if you’re curious about the core theology and spirituality that animates Presence’s disparate activities, I’d recommend reading two things for starters:

Chapter Eight of Brian’s A New Kind of Christianity

Kevin Beck’s free eBook, This Book Will Change Your World – download it here!

This will be a wild ride…if you’re in Colorado Springs let me know – we should connect!

11 Responses to “Brian McLaren, Tim King – End-Times & New Beginnings”


  1. 1 Jonathan Blundell April 14, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Finally finished reading “This Book Will Change Your World.”

    Not ready to agree with it all — but challenging and inspiring none-the-less.

    Congrats on the new position. You’ll be a great fit amongst all the evangelicals of Colorado Springs :-).

    Here’s to the future!

  2. 2 Matthew April 14, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Hey hey, you’ll be in my neck of the woods up here in Big 12 country! Congratulations and blessings on this exciting new chapter in the life of your family.

    If your work or travels bring you anywhere near East Texas, make sure to give me a holler. 😉

  3. 3 John Sobert Sylvest April 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Vaya con Dios, Michael, Jasmin & Jubilee! and with the Presence team, you most assuredly will!

  4. 4 Wes Roberts April 14, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    …as to you move for you three to Colorado?

    …welcome home!

  5. 5 jadanzzy April 14, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    nice conversation aside, the whole piano playing intro and outro… *puke*.

    it looks like brian’s serenading spencer.

    and that finishes my too-cool rant for the day.

  6. 6 Scott Spiewak April 14, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Mike,
    We have a team member down there in the CO area. Would love to connect the two of you once you land! Love hearing about the gig.

  7. 7 ~Katherine April 15, 2010 at 2:25 am

    I knew when you posted on a move to Colorado it was something big! Cool!!! 😀

    ~Katherine

  8. 8 Mark Eaton April 17, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    I am so excited about you moving into new dimensions. When we speak of “fulfillment”. I find my view of “fulfillment” based on the Scripture :”The God of Peace shall bruise satan under your feet shortly.” I often wondered: “What did it not say a God of War.” I grew up with the mental images of Jesus declaring War on a Horse. I realize now that God is Active Peace. His Love is not stale, cold or even frozen. Destiny is liquid and envolves motion. What ever your perception of Evil or consciousness of it, A God of Rest and Peace brought total Victory over evil. There is the “Evil” spoken of in the Bible that God Triumphantly brought Victory over! Yet, there is a “social”, a filtered perception of “God as Anger, full of terror.” He is a God of Peace and functions at the Level of Peace, His function or rulership is fusion of Peace.

    The Bibical language reveals Jesus did not “resist evil”, He Transcended it. Death is not done away, it is Swallowed up in Victory! The Anatomy of hate depends we force, constrict and
    assault with our beliefs. The Anatomy of Love is that the unrelenting Love of God transcends it all. Peace is not the absence of War, it the Presence that is activately revealing the
    ALL in ALL.

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