New Wine Party / Chill & Refill

Meet Todd Post. At the height of my interaction with John Crowder, Post & I had a brief exchange of our own. He’s posted many of the videos of Crowder that are on YouTube, including this original music of his:

So when I saw this video, we started corresponding, and it turned out he was passing through Raleigh on a Greyhound, on his way to (or is it from? I can’t quite recall) Virginia where he was hosting an outdoor “Holy Ghost House Party.” We met and he gave me review copies of his two albums, New Wine Party and Chill & Refill.

They’re fascinating albums – electronica overlaid with sampling from the preaching of this fella, John Scotland, a definite “new wine” enthusiast. I think this is how charismatic preaching should be heard all the time – better to be felt than telt.

As best as I can tell, Todd doesn’t have a “day job;” he is in many ways the embodiment of the ‘Spirit-filled’ ideal. He goes to conferences, then goes out onto the streets, evangelizing, passing out shots of Godka, and taping/podcasting the conversions. He doesn’t have a high-profile ‘ministry’ in this world, but faithfully walks out in (as our Quaker brethren would say) the Light he has been given. I have absolutely no idea how he earns a living – could be the life of faith!

Here’s a little about Todd from his website, Signs & Wonders:

“Born in Fargo, North Dakota and raised in the bordering city of Moorhead, Minnesota, Todd Richard Post attended a traditional Lutheran church where he was confirmed at the age of 15. Two years later at a Young Life meeting, T. R. asked Jesus Christ to come into his heart. But an intense love for secular music caused T. R. to back away from Christianity and move to Minneapolis to pursue a career in the recording industry. During that time he supported himself doing disc jockey work in roller rinks, nightclubs and at wedding dances.

In 1991, T. R. had a powerful experience with the Lord while visiting family members in Fargo. He recommitted his life to Jesus and later accepted the call to preach. T. R. was employed at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and also served as an evangelism leader at Living Word Christian Center before stepping out to become a full-time missionary. During that time, the Lord led T. R. to start writing “Signs & Wonders”, a newsletter that is now read by Christians all over the world. Crowder & Post

In 2006, T. R. resumed using his recording and DJ skills by launching the

Signs & Wonders Radio Network. The following year, T. R. produced “New Wine Party”, an album combining electronic music with the preaching of Liverpool, England native John Scotland. A follow-up album “Chill & Refill” was released in March 2008. Samples from both albums may be heard on T. R.’s MySpace page.”

So there you have it! Check out his tunes on his Myspace page.

Of course, speaking of off-the-beaten path Spirit-filled tunage, I’m looking forward to my copy of Toking The Ghost… : )

Toking The Ghost

11 Responses to “New Wine Party / Chill & Refill”


  1. 1 Jason July 21, 2008 at 2:01 am

    this is terrible….on so many levels.

  2. 2 Jason July 22, 2008 at 1:32 am

    it’s cheesy

  3. 3 natrimony July 27, 2008 at 2:20 am

    Not only do these guys have a suckfest of a theology but their music is some of the suckiest, suckerass stuff that ever sucked.

  4. 4 nancy gorman September 14, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    I goooooot dunkn watching that vedeo drunkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk imenaan

    Sweet

  5. 6 Nilla October 16, 2008 at 6:38 am

    Beautifuuuul music! Beautiful holy Spirit!!!!

  6. 7 susankps October 19, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    St. Paul and the Beatles had it right, love is all we need. 1 Cor 13:13 It’s a sacred joy, and those who have it know it. Those who don’t know it, too. But the good news is, all can have it! Jesus breathed Holy Spirit on His disciples in the upper room and He’s still breathing. Just open your heart and BREATHE.

  7. 8 billcnz February 20, 2009 at 2:02 am

    John Crowder and “familiar spirits”
    ===========================

    All Christians SHOULD BE OFFENDED by improper manifestations, such as what John Crowder practices, however many have been CONDITIONED FOR YEARS in churches to accept ANYTHING unusual and supernatural done “in the name of Jesus”.
    They are overlooking the reality of FALSE CHRISTS, that the Bible warns about.

    Matthew 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

    Caution: Any IMPROPER TEACHING about WHO Jesus Christ is, or what he wants us to do CREATES a false Christ for people to follow.

    The Roman Catholic church promotes a false Christ who is still on the cross (through display of crosses with a body on), who changes back into flesh when you eat their communion wafer (false transubstantiation teaching), and who is unapproachable so that you have to send appeals to his mother Mary, other dead people (“Saints”) or confessionals with clergy-mediators.

    Jehovah Witness, Mormons, New Age and many other religions follow false Christs. John Crowder is following and promoting a false Christ through his false teachings.

    If you pray to one of these artificial Christs to get “filled with the spirit”, then you might get a “familiar spirit”, one of Satan’s minions.

    In these times many Christians have ALSO been CONDITIONED not to be critical of anything, not to be negative against anything, and to IGNORE ALL Biblical judgement warnings. A false doctrine of UNIVERSAL POSITIVISM is promoted.

    They should realise that universal positivism leads to universal wickedness. A lot of scripture is negative, intolerant, exclusive and judgemental, which is protection from wickedness, eg. the 10 commandments.

    The floodgates are open for mass deception in churches.

    Since scripture ALWAYS asserts DRUNKENNESS as UNRIGHTEOUS, then all drunken manifestations which are claimed to be from God are actually a MOCKERY of scripture, a mockery of Jesus Christ, and a mockery of the Holy Spirit.

    Prov 21:17 He who LOVES PLEASURE will become poor; whoever LOVES WINE and oil will never be rich.

    1 Thessalonians 5:6-8 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and BE SOBER. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night. But let us who are of the day BE SOBER, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.

    Since John Crowder and those in agreement with him are being affected by REAL SPIRITUAL POWERS, and since their manifestations contradict REPEATING SCRIPTURAL COUNSEL against drunkenness and loss of self control, then the spiritual power MUST BE from Satan and his minions called “familiar spirits”, or demons.

    These are the spirit guides of New Age religion, the occult, and Roman Catholicism (eg. Mariology).

    Lev 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have FAMILIAR SPIRITS, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

    “Familiar Spirits” – see http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=familiar&version1=9&searchtype=all&limit=none&wholewordsonly=no

    John Crowder and those who follow his perverted ways have FALLEN IN LOVE WITH A COUNTERFEIT “angel of light”, “the God of this age”, and may have the same destiny:

    2 Cor 4:4 The GOD OF THIS AGE has BLINDED THE MINDS of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Spiritual drunkenness BLINDS THE MINDS of BELIEVERS!

    2 Cor 11:14-15 Satan himself MASQUERADES as an ANGEL OF LIGHT. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

    Rev 20:10 And the devil, who DECEIVED THEM, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    Playing around with counterfeit “angels of light” might be BLISS and ECSTASY now, but if not repented of will lead to REJECTION by the Most High God FOREVER.

    The “big party” will occur in heaven AFTER WE DIE, not now (see Rev 19:9).

    Scripture asserts we now have SERIOUS WORK to do while remaining firmly SOBER.

    2 Tim 4:3-5 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. But you, KEEP YOUR HEAD in all situations, endure hardship, DO THE WORK of an evangelist, discharge ALL THE DUTIES of your ministry.

    People who turn up DRUNK at work GET FIRED.

    People who GET DRUNK with “familiar spirits” from Lucifer will GET FIRED into the lake of fire, if they don’t REPENT prior.

    John Crowder’s “HEAVY, WEIGHTY, drunken glory” may be a premonition of the WEIGHT OF A MILLSTONE:

    Luke 17:1-2 Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a MILLSTONE TIED AROUND HIS NECK than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.

    John Crowder’s mocking ministry is not to the unsaved, as they would be repulsed by his bizarre acts which are IDENTICAL TO MENTAL ILLNESS.

    John’s ministry is to cause CORRUPTION OF EXISTING CHRISTIANS by encouraging them to mock God with improper revelry, and form relationships with Satan’s minions, “familiar spirits”, and so reclaim Christians for the Devil.

    1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    Matthew 24:10-13 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and MANY FALSE PROPHETS will appear and DECEIVE MANY PEOPLE. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but HE WHO STANDS FIRM to the end will be saved.

    Getting DRUNK and FALLING DOWN is the opposite of STANDING FIRM.

    The “slain in the spirit” (falling down) phenomena is not from God of Gen 1:1, it is from “god of this age” 2 Cor 4:4
    The only exception is falling down after being killed by God for wrongdoing (eg. Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11). Slain means being killed.

    Instead of teaching people to fear the Lord, John Crowder is teaching them to treat God as an object to be indulged, like a prostitute for sex lust and drunken dissipation.

    It is deception and blasphemy to associate these immoralities with “the joy of the Lord” mentioned in the Bible.

    Rom 13:12-14 The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us CAST OFF the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light. Let us WALK PROPERLY, as in the day, NOT IN REVELRY AND DRUNKENNESS, NOT IN LEWDNESS AND LUST, not in strife and envy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts.

    Manifestations from “familiar spirits” might feel good, but IMMORAL ACTIVITIES always do FEEL GOOD, such as drunkenness, drug taking, and fornication.

    Following John Crowder’s ways is spiritual immorality.

    The only response from participators is either accepting the certainty of DAMNATION to Hell, or REPENTING while there is still opportunity.

    Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the VILE, the murderers, the SEXUALLY IMMORAL, those who PRACTICE MAGIC ARTS, the IDOLATERS and all LIARS–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

    1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

    Proverbs 14:12, 16:25 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death

    Psalm 111:10-112:1 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise.
    Praise the LORD. Blessed is the man who fears the LORD, who finds great delight in his commands.

  8. 9 Trixspeed November 25, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    90% OF WHAT THE LAST PERSON WAS ALL TRUE , EXCEPT THE BEING SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT PART. I’M NOT SURE IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE HOLY-SPIRIT OR NOT, BUT YOU CAN BE SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT.

    IF GOD CAN TRANSPORT PEOPLE IN THE SPIRIT SURELY HE CAN SLAY THEM IN THE SPIRIT… YOU FORGET THE PEOPLE THAT FELL DOWN BEFORE THE PRESENCE OF ANGELS… AND HAD A DESIRE TO WORSHIP THEM.. WHY UNLESS THEY CARRIED THE GLORY OF GOD ON THEM.

    SO YES YOU CAN BE SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT AND EVEN BE DRUNK IN THE SPIRIT, LETS NOT FALL APART BECAUSE GOD ACTS OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU THINK HE SHOULD ACT…. NOW WITH THAT SAID…….. THIS PASTOR YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS IN DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE WITH THE WORD OF GOD AND ALL THAT GETTING DRUNK AND TAKING A TOKE GARBAGE IS AN OUT RIGHT INSULT

    I CAME OUT OF THE WORLD, WHY WOULD I WANT TO COME INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND TAKE A SPIRITUAL TOKE? THAT IS THE MOST RETARDED THING I HAVE EVER HEARD. THIS MAN IS OPERATING IN WITCH CRAFT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

    HE NEEDS TO REPENT…….. AND GET FILLED WITH THE TRUE SPIRIT OF CHRIST…. THE ONE THAT ROSE JESUS FROM THE DEAD AND BAPTIZED THE APOSTLES IN THE BOOK OF ACTS 2-38

    JESUS IS LORD, GETTING DRUNK AND TAKING A TOKE IS NO BETTER THAN ASTRO PROJECTION AND THE REST OF THESE END TIME FAMILIAR NEW AGE DEMONIC SPIRITS SENT TO DECEIVE.

    JESUS IS LORD AND READ HIS WORD……… WATCH HIS VIDEOS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, THAT CHINESE GIRL IS NOT EVEN MENTALLY THERE HALF THE TIME. SHE SEEMS LIKE SHE IS ALMOST BEING CONTROLLED LIKE A WITCH OR WIZARD WOULD DO.

    WATCH IT FOR YOUR SELF.. WHAT DOES GOD’S PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH THE THIS

    notice in both videos how they want to throw something at you so fast….. They can’t wait to wave a curse and throw a enchantment on you. PEOPLE WAKE UP NOTHING NEW FROM SATAN SAME TACTICS, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS

    LOOK AT HOW WEIRD THIS VIDEO IS, FUNNY HOW THE SPIRITS WANT TO MAKE A DISTORTED PICTURE VIDEO FOR YOU OF WEIRD SHAPES AND SIZES HUH? HE HAS TO REVEAL HIMSELF SOONER OR LATER GUYS.

  9. 10 billcnz December 22, 2009 at 4:00 am

    “Slain”……. churches are falling over!
    ============================

    >> so yes you can be slain in the spirit and even be drunk in the spirit

    Not from the Holy Spirit, as he never gives manifestations that contradict his counsel given in the Bible.

    Read the entire Bible. There is no ministry of spiritual drugged/drunken/mental illness, including the “slain” phenomenon.

    God is “in a box” to not contradict himself, as otherwise he would be a liar.

    God has a limited himself inside truth, and never goes beyond this, and doesn’t want us to either.

    Toronto “blessing” type ministry is attractive to many church leaders as a supernatural power they can dispense to people.
    They become spiritual drug dealers, and many people get “hooked”.

    Attempting to command, wave, and prod the Holy Spirit or Jesus into people is gross misbehaviour against God.

    He will not be commanded by men or be indulged like a prostitute for drunken frolicks.
    The phenomena isn’t a blessing from God.
    It is an infiltration of occult power from the same source as Hindu “Shaktipat”. Google “Shaktipat”.

    Toronto “Blessing” is wizardry and magic arts from familiar spirits (demons masquerading as friendly):
    Lev 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people. (KJV)

    Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

    Toronto “Blessing” definitely didn’t come from the creator God, as he never imparts manifestations similar to mental illness or drunken / drugged, as that is a contradiction of a sound mind and self control which he has repeatedly endorsed in the Bible.

    The only exception might be when God punishes someone by putting them into a drunken stupor, which would also be a warning to others:

    Romans 10:21 …”All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and obstinate people.”…..
    Romans 11:8 …”God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear”
    Job 12:25 They grope in darkness with no light; he makes them stagger like drunkards.

    Isaiah 19:14 The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.

    Isaiah 29:9-10 Be stunned and amazed, blind yourselves and be sightless; be drunk, but not from wine, stagger, but not from beer. The LORD has brought over you a deep sleep: He has sealed your eyes (the prophets); he has covered your heads (the seers).

    Christians should not provoke punishment from God:
    Isaiah 8:13 The LORD Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread

    The Bible repeatedly asserts drunkenness as immoral.

    The Bible does not endorse a righteous version of drunkenness, just as there is no righteous version of stealing, adultery or lying.

    Rom 13:12-14 The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light. let us walk properly, as in the day, not in revelry and drunkenness, not in lewdness and lust, not in strife and envy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts.

    On the Day of Pentecost Christian disciples preached the gospel in various languages which impressed listeners who comprehended the message in their own language. (Acts 2:1-47)
    However mockers accused the disciples of being drunk for speaking authentic languages the disciples normally didn’t know.
    The false accusation of mockers should not be used to justify spiritual or physical drunkenness.

    2 Cor 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Spiritual drunkenness blinds the minds of believers!

    The Bible encourages us to test the spirits, and that should include using your mind to analyse the outcomes (manifestations) in conjunction with seeking what the bible says about it.
    This is what a renewed mind is for.
    1 John 4:1 … test the spirits to see whether they are from God…
    Romans 12:2 …be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is–his good, pleasing and perfect will.

    Being discerning includes being cautious.
    “The fear of the Lord” includes being cautious.
    God recommends this to protect us from harm.

    Spiritual drunkenness ministries (eg. John Crowder) that encourage reckless abandon towards God are defying God’s repeating counsel in the Bible.

    2 Cor 11:14-15 Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
    Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    Playing around with counterfeit “angels of light” (familiar spirits) might be bliss and ecstasy now, but if not repented of will lead to rejection by the Most High God forever.

    The “big party” will occur in heaven after we die, not now (Rev 19:9).

    Scripture asserts we now have serious work to do while remaining firmly sober.
    2 Tim 4:5 …. keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

    “Keep your head” includes not getting drunk.

    Luke 12:45-46 … suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk.
    The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.

    “eat and drink and get drunk” in that passage probably means self indulgence and spiritual foolishness while neglecting what God wants doing.

    Toronto “Blessing” type phenomena produce manifestations such as mental euphoria, body vibrations, twitching, slurred speech, gibberish speech and sound effects, animal acts – dogs, chickens, lions, snakes, etc., staggering about, falling over (“slain”), and having uncontrollable/irrational laughter.

    These are manifestations of the god of chaos – Lucifer.
    People who participate are unwittingly practicing mockery of the Bible, mockery of God the Father, mockery of Jesus Christ and mockery of the Holy Spirit.

    Participators who come to this realisation should repent and deliberately avoid any recurrences. They should also warn others, as it will be disastrous on judgement day for people who persisted in spiritually fornicating with Satan’s minions “familiar spirits”.

    I was previously deceived about Toronto “Blessing” in a church I attended.
    I tolerated it due to experiences I had at a Christian training school about 4 years prior, as well as not comparing it sufficiently against Bible counsel.

    Pride could make a person unwilling to face the possibility they have been deceived, and then to remove themselves from the convenience of continuing in fellowship with others who indulge in false ministry.

    It is God himself who gives divisive counsel:
    Rev 18:4-5 “come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues.”

    Will people heed God’s warning?
    Sadly, many won’t because they are either in love with a false Christ who gives them tickles, or have insufficient “fear of the Lord”:
    Prov 14:26-27 He who fears the lord has a secure fortress, and for his children it will be a refuge. The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, turning a man from the snares of death.

    Toronto “Blessing” type phenomena have been called “new wine”.

    It is actually spiritual adultery, and therefore maddening wine:
    Rev 18:3 the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries.

    At the height of a Toronto “Blessing” era I experienced in the mid 1990’s, the church services were a madhouse of manifestations.
    They used to have evenings where cushions were put all over the floor for all the falling over that went on.

    “Slain”…….. churches are falling over!

    The only “slain” from God is being killed for misbehaviour, as happened to Annanias and Sapphira see
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%205:1-11&version=NIV

    The Holy Spirit will be grieved by Christian people fornicating with spiritual sensations from the Devil: Eph 4:30 do not grieve the Holy Spirit.

    Phenomena like Toronto “Blessing” push people towards mental illness, such as bipolar disorder, through giving them tremendous euphoric “high’s”, (supposedly a “blessing” from God), then they come crashing down into unbearable depression when the “high” wears off.

    This causes them to seek more of the “high” and become familiar spirit drug addicts.

    Mental illness and demon influence are sometimes different names for the same thing.

    This is how churches are becoming “Babylon”: Rev 18:2 “She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit”

    1 Tim 6:11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.

  10. 11 N.C.Sekhar, Evangelist, July 8, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Top Priority is Soul winning………Proverb 11:30.
    My Dear earnest Director/Pastor,
    Praise the Lord Jesus at all times, giving Him all the Glory.
    I am an Evangelist and in full time ministry saving lost souls at any cost through the Sound Bible Doctrine. I have been anointed by the Holy Spirit for teaching and preaching ministry. I have three mission stations looking after their Spiritual needs as an Evangelist. I am 41 years old, married and have two Children. I conduct prayer services, Spiritual retreats, Marriage counseling, House visiting, prepare Hindus and Muslims for adult Baptisms in our Holy Church. In these last days keeping the blessed Hope in Mind. Titus 2:13. Together we can prepare the Bride to meet Jesus at His Second coming. For this is Gods assignment for us, we must do what must be done. This is an enduring commitment among us.
    Faith in Jesus Christ and obedience to His word will help us to see the invisible, believe the incredible and receive the impossible.

    May the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the sweet fellowship of the Holy Spirit been with you. I am waiting your urgent reply. Please, send some resource material books and some finance help for my ministry needs feel free to do so. Your gifts truly make a difference! Engaging in ministry with the poor. Your support is needed in three ways: Prayer, Practical help and finances. Live like Christ. Walk with Christ. Work for Christ. Keep on pursuing love. It never fails. A little can change a lot, and all of your donations matter.
    Yours winning lost souls for the Church,
    N.C.Sekhar, Evangelist,
    My Address: N.C.Sekhar, Divine Mercy Ministries,Dr.No.14-11-17/6,Nidubrole-522124, Guntur (Dt) A.P.India.
    My Email: bc.sekhar@rediffmail.com


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