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	<title>Comments on: Deeper, Safer, Richer: Emergence into Global Family</title>
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	<description>an opti-mystic friend of Jesus in a post-conventional world</description>
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		<title>By: The Shack - Too Edgy for Christian Publishing? &#171; zoecarnate</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Shack - Too Edgy for Christian Publishing? &#171; zoecarnate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] many readers here know, I&#8217;ve been friends with Windblown co-publisher Wayne Jacobsen for years. (We have similar [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maybe &#8216;Emergent&#8217; Is Not So Complicated &#171; zoecarnate</title>
		<link>http://zoecarnate.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/deeper-safer-richer-emergence-into-global-family/#comment-1583</link>
		<dc:creator>Maybe &#8216;Emergent&#8217; Is Not So Complicated &#171; zoecarnate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] review of Why We&#8217;re Not Emergent. (By the way, I don&#8217;t see this as backing down in my vow to Wayne, as I&#8217;m just quoting!  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] review of Why We&#8217;re Not Emergent. (By the way, I don&#8217;t see this as backing down in my vow to Wayne, as I&#8217;m just quoting!  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew I should&#039;ve checked with you before I posted about &quot;The Shack&quot; over on the Emergent Village blog! D&#039;oh! 

I&#039;ve just added an update with a link to this here post. Thanks for this and for articulating some good thoughts on the value of the &quot;emergent&quot; label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew I should&#8217;ve checked with you before I posted about &#8220;The Shack&#8221; over on the Emergent Village blog! D&#8217;oh! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just added an update with a link to this here post. Thanks for this and for articulating some good thoughts on the value of the &#8220;emergent&#8221; label.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 04:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think many folks these days are trying to change the status quo.  we&#039;re tired of the same.  no one wants the old.  people want something fresh and new.  &#039;emergent&#039; is, for some, simply a means by which to explore and be free (expressing new things and exploring new ideas). on the other hand, for others, it&#039;s the same old shoe box with new wrapping (a white elephant gift)...and when the receiver opens it, they find themselves disappointed.

i personally would like to drink from new rivers that i&#039;d like to see spring forth from above and below.  fresh is good.  but of course vintage, is even better.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think many folks these days are trying to change the status quo.  we&#8217;re tired of the same.  no one wants the old.  people want something fresh and new.  &#8216;emergent&#8217; is, for some, simply a means by which to explore and be free (expressing new things and exploring new ideas). on the other hand, for others, it&#8217;s the same old shoe box with new wrapping (a white elephant gift)&#8230;and when the receiver opens it, they find themselves disappointed.</p>
<p>i personally would like to drink from new rivers that i&#8217;d like to see spring forth from above and below.  fresh is good.  but of course vintage, is even better.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Words &#171; Sensual Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Words &#171; Sensual Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writing this in response to an article over at my friend Mike&#8217;s blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, I posting from work...

I haven&#039;t dropped out of our conversation (wait. does that make me emergent now? Tee Hee)...but there is only so much time in a day.

Titles, words, labels, etc...
They can all be helpful in communication.
For instance, one we all know is that Jesus was labeled the &quot;Messiah&quot; and &quot;Lord&quot;. I am called a &quot;maintenance man&quot;, etc.
(I know this is all very elementary, but I am just trying to make a point).

I think communication and conversation is very important.
Questions need to be asked, and answers need to be given.
Statements need to be made.
Many things are simply held in tension, and certainly relationships need to be built and/or understood.
Sometimes it&#039;s just good to talk and enjoy the conversation.

To me, it all depends on where one &quot;is at&quot;, and what the Lord is saying to them at the time that matters.

The most important thing for me right now is what the Lord is speaking to me personally.
&quot;Enough talk. There is too much work to do. Be quiet and do your work, it will speak louder than anything you have to say anyway&quot;.

This isn&#039;t a &#039;rebuke&#039; against conversation, it&#039;s an exhortation, for me, to be about may Fathers buisness which consequently curtails many uneccesary things.

The neat thing, for me, is that this resonates very much with what I find in scripture as well (James, in particular. I LOVE that letter!!), which, to me, carries alot of weight.
Peace, and I hope to see or converse with you soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, I posting from work&#8230;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t dropped out of our conversation (wait. does that make me emergent now? Tee Hee)&#8230;but there is only so much time in a day.</p>
<p>Titles, words, labels, etc&#8230;<br />
They can all be helpful in communication.<br />
For instance, one we all know is that Jesus was labeled the &#8220;Messiah&#8221; and &#8220;Lord&#8221;. I am called a &#8220;maintenance man&#8221;, etc.<br />
(I know this is all very elementary, but I am just trying to make a point).</p>
<p>I think communication and conversation is very important.<br />
Questions need to be asked, and answers need to be given.<br />
Statements need to be made.<br />
Many things are simply held in tension, and certainly relationships need to be built and/or understood.<br />
Sometimes it&#8217;s just good to talk and enjoy the conversation.</p>
<p>To me, it all depends on where one &#8220;is at&#8221;, and what the Lord is saying to them at the time that matters.</p>
<p>The most important thing for me right now is what the Lord is speaking to me personally.<br />
&#8220;Enough talk. There is too much work to do. Be quiet and do your work, it will speak louder than anything you have to say anyway&#8221;.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a &#8216;rebuke&#8217; against conversation, it&#8217;s an exhortation, for me, to be about may Fathers buisness which consequently curtails many uneccesary things.</p>
<p>The neat thing, for me, is that this resonates very much with what I find in scripture as well (James, in particular. I LOVE that letter!!), which, to me, carries alot of weight.<br />
Peace, and I hope to see or converse with you soon.</p>
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